I am finding I am really enjoying these shorter races, but I do need some advice. I have a half-marathon on May 3rd, and I want to do well in it – a time of 2:13 or less (that’d be at least 5 minutes faster than I did one last fall), and it has some hills so I’ve got my work cut out for me.
I am thinking of running 4 days per week, and cross-training on the 5th. My coach had put together a schedule for me based on my running 20+ miles per week, with runs on 3 days, and most of my weekend runs end up being very long to make up the mileage. With the long runs of 10+, it can make racing a shorter race the next day pretty hard.
When do you all suggest I start to ramp up the long runs past 8 or 8.5 miles? Should I only be doing about 7 right now, and concentrate more on speed?
I’d like to run a 3 mile race next Sunday, with Lis, and then a 4 miler the following Sunday, with a 5 miler on March 8th. It’s just not the same to run a race without her – I went today without Bill, who is working, and even though there were other folks there from MVS, it’s just not the same. Seeing Lis gets me pumped, and we just get along really well.
So, any advice would be appreciated on how I can continue to keep my base, and also be able to do these shorter races, while still keeping in mind my half in May.
Now, onto the race report!
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6K. That’s a very odd distance. It equals something like 3.7 miles. Not a 5K, not 4 miles. Just somewhere in the middle. It’s hard to know when to “settle in” and when to “start pushing it.”
The pros about this race:
- cheap entry fee = $18 if you signed up before 1/30, $20 after that, and $25 on race day. I paid $20!
- lots of free stuff for that low fee: russell stover chocolates; flowers from very cute little girls who were handing them out; long sleeved tshirt that was not ugly; bottled water beforehand; lots of food afterward (soup, cider, orange slices, bread, bananas); AND free entry into multiple raffles!
- timing chip (the old-school ankle kind)
- the ability to run with your honey (if they’re a runner, of course), or to be part of a team with them (one member of the two-person team runs the 5 Miler, the other the 6K).
- nice markings and ample directions as to where to go on the course (pink arrows for 6Kers, yellow arrows for the 5 Milers)
- SUPER DOWNHILL FINISH!
The cons about this race (I think they were outweighed by everything else):
- no timing mat at the start line (but there was one at the first mile marker?)
- mile markers for only the 5 mile race – if you weren’t wearing a Garmin like me, you’d have had no clue where you were, distance-wise, really, other than at mile 1 (and their mile 4, or our 2.7?)
My stats:
- Garmin watch time and distance = 32:35, average mile pace = 8:59 for 3.63 miles (either started it too late, or was amazing at running the tangents)
- Official time (remember there was no mat at the beginning): 33:04 for 3.7 miles, average pace of 8:57.
- Place in division: 8/38 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Place overall for 6K: 87/263 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Luckily I have run some of this course in the past on one of our Saturday morning runs. I knew there was a hill at the beginning, and a few more along the way, so of course I was a little freaked to see I was doing something like 8:06 pace at one point. Oh, and I remember thinking for a while at the beginning, that maybe I’d had a bit too much water before the race – ugh!!!
I definitely felt overdressed because it was so sunny out, although the air was pretty cold (temperature this morning was in the 20s), and there was a bit of wind at places (were supposed to be 20 mph+ winds). I made a mental note to myself to wear only two layers on top from now on on race day – I’ll count on the adrenaline to keep me warm, I think! I was so glad I only wore tights on the bottom. That was plenty. As with the last race, I started with gloves but took them off after the first mile. I had a shirt with holes for my thumbs and that was enough.
There was one water stop along my course – I’m sure there was another for the 5 Milers. I did walk briefly through it so I could get the water in me, rather than just on me! Next week for the 3 mile race on Sunday, I think I’ll forego anything until the end and just run my heart out.
The course was very pretty, not very busy with cars, and drivers were polite. At the end, there were cones, and of course couples running together forced you to run in the street to get past them, but again, drivers were cool and gave you space.
Today I feel like I should have run harder – at times I let the negative mental thoughts get to me, during mile 2 and 3, and I also had a problem getting my sports beans in my mouth and not all over the road (WTH?):
- lap 1: 8:34
- lap 2: 9:29
- lap 3: 9:33
- lap 4 (for .7 miles): 7:59 pace
I just need to push them out from now on during races, kind of like how I handle the negative thoughts during speedwork – I just refuse to let them into my brain. After a while, I’m hoping it can be more of an automatic thing, like with learned optimism.
Apologies for the long post, but thanks for reading it. I hope you’ll all have a great Valentine’s Day – my gift to you is the beautiful picture below.

Photo by Automania, on flickr.com (isn't the heart amazing?)
p.s. Thank you Lindsay for sending those sub-9 minute vibes my way – I just scraped them in as an average!
February 14, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I’d say that if you are running 4 days a week instead of 3 you can have more quality shorter runs during the week, so that you run less miles each day, but make each day count. I was reading today a post from Coach Dean that might be helpful for you:
http://coachdeanhebert.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/is-a-distance-base-better-for-you/
His filosfy is that each run should count and have a purpose. Another option is to do the long runs during the week, so that you can use the short races on weekends as a part of your training. But I know this can be troublesome depending on your schedule…
And, OMG YOU MADE THE TO 10 ON THE RACE!!!!!!!!
February 14, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Yeah that would be hard to get a long run of more than 8 in during the week and even doing more than 6 is kind of stretching it because then we’re getting into the workouts of lasting more than an hour. I’m already getting up at 4:30 so I can eat and try getting out there by 5:30, to be showering by 6:30 and then leaving for work between 7:30/7:45. It takes me at least an hour usually to get to work (sucks big time.)
yep, top ten but only for my division of females 30-39. I’m sure the 40-49 division was much more competitive! And it was a small race….
Thanks for the link to Coach Dean – I’ve been neglectful about reading him lately.
He has some great advice.
February 14, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Those are some pretty sweet race rewards for such a low entry fee! Nice!
But even better than those race perks… your time! Good job, that was a great pace! I wish I could do that, I’ve been running a little slower since Phoenix, constantly analyzing every step.
Having the sun out definitely makes a difference in how you feel. When I went out this morning it was 40 degrees, but the sun was already up and shining. I was so overheated by the time I finished my run, I thought for sure it must have heated up a ton… but nope, it was just 43 or 45 (depending on which thermometer at my house I looked at) when I finished.
I wish I had some good advice for you on the distances… I just ran and ran and ran from last March until this Phoenix incident, never really slowing down and I don’t think I’d recommend that method! It caught up to me finally!
February 15, 2009 at 12:55 am
Nice race! I hate it when you finish and you feel you left something out there. Then again, if it’s not a race you were keying on, you should feel pretty good knowing you could have done harder.
Don’t know if it will work for you but I use a 4 day a week program that I just fell into because of my schedule. I try to get a speedwork day (Tuesday’s), a Tempo run (Thursday), a maintenance/recovery run (Friday) and a long run (Sunday). If I have a race on a Saturday I’ll use that for my Tempo run and switch my maintenance run to Thursday and take Friday off. Races are perfect Tempo runs and I definetly recommend you incorporate Tempo runs into your plan. They pay dividends quickly.
That’s my plan, it’s simple and flexible. I just make sure I get at least the 3 core runs (Speed, Tempo, and Long) in every week with some rest time in between them. If I want to add mileage I’ll run 3-4 easy miles on my off days.
Good luck.
February 15, 2009 at 11:21 am
Terri – if you are running those paces but still trying to break 2:00 in the half, I think you need to start lengthening out and slowing down on your long runs. I would start going to 5 days a week and try ramp up closer to 30 miles per week. Your long runs should ramp up to 10 to 12 miles, and drop your pace. Since you wear a Garmin, set your heart rate range so that you are running your long run at 75% – 83% MHR – that way you stay out of LT, and your body will start building aerobic capacity, which you need to go the longer half distance. Do this for three or four weeks then run a 10K – you should see your time drop.
And thanks fro stopping by my blog yesterday! To answer your question, I’ll be running the Long Beach Marathon in October this year. I also have a half on tap May 3rd and another on May 25th.
February 15, 2009 at 12:46 pm
personally i’d take the ‘official’ time
either way, nice job! 2 successful races in a row now, and so early on in your adjustments to speedier running! for some reason, it is hard to stay focused in those middle miles of 5k-type races. i know for me it’s b/c i’m running so much harder and i just want to quit, lol. yet somehow we can get out there and run 26(.2) no problem. i don’t get it. you did a better job of not going out too fast in the first mile, which is also a tough demon to fight. congrats on meeting your goal (always feels good!) and placing so well overall/in your age group!
for the half… speedy, short races are good because they can help you build speed for the half, but since you aren’t resting up for them you may not perform your best. another good thing about short races though is that you don’t really need to taper for them or take time afterward to recover. is there anyway to still have your speedy races on saturday, and do your long run on sunday? that way you’d have fresh legs for your race, and train your legs to run through fatigue on sunday. i’m sure you wouldn’t be racing every weekend, so on those that you aren’t racing you could do your long run on saturday. or if you can’t run both sat and sun, move your long run to mid-week?
i’d have 1 hard day, 1 long day, and 2 regular/easy days as my 4 running days. your hard day could be a tempo or track work, or even the weekend races. if you have enough room in your schedule you could just juggle these 4 days around from week to week to get in all your runs and still have time to race on the weekends.
oh i also just thought of this – run your race as part of your long run. 1-2 miles warmup jog, fast race, X number of miles easy/cooldown jog needed to reach the long run milage for the week. i wouldn’t do that every week of course, just like i wouldn’t do race sat/long sun every week either… just some ideas that i’ve done though. sorry my thoughts are all over the place this morning.
congrats again on another terrific race!!
February 15, 2009 at 12:47 pm
yikes. guess i should’ve sent an email instead
February 15, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Congrats on finishing in the top 10!
February 15, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Congratulations on a great race! Again! I think you should have no fears about improving your half marathon time; I suspect you’ll do 2:10 easy, more likely 2:05 or better.
I would suggest you allow 8 weeks before your half to make sure you get your mileage up. A traditional training plan is 12 weeks but you’re further along than the beginning of a training plan. Based on my training experiences when I did WELL in half marathons, a few fast short-ish races, combined with your long runs as slow as you like, and some speedwork no more than once a week, should get you where you want to be. If you want to do a short race more than once a month, you may just have to endure a long SLOW run on the day after the race (hopefully the race would be on Saturday).
Good luck! And have fun! And again, I am so impressed with your speed these days!
February 15, 2009 at 9:38 pm
6k is an odd number to run. When I do a 5k, I just think…”This too shall pass.” Over and over again.